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PMALUAL

why many Aweilians complaining, whining and outcry for everything? do Aweilians extremists want all the southern leaders to be from Aweil community or do these people get used to the lives of complaining? if so it will be mental disorder. people, southern sudan government has no codified law or common law and the one thing the South has is the natural law which is not a unified law. it will be better to stop psychopath and praising of war in the south and just let give a Southern goverment a chance to show southerners their leadership. extremists should use ego defense mechanism to justify things than using ethnic ideologies. it takes time to set up a new government and afterward laws or constitutions come first before election. furthermore; nobody want any election full of fraud. so what election are you talking about when you don't even have any constitutions to govern the election. however, leadership is not a gene that you can pass to your children so what are you worry about? One or more Aweilians may become a president or vice someday and how do you want other people to treat him/her? finally just stop hasty generation and praising of war in south and rushing into incomplete work with hasty conclusion.
take care
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Deng Malual

Akuei Akuei · Golden Member Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 825

Wen e Malual,

Not everyone from Aweil is whinning. This is an internal problem rather than a national issue according to how I analyze Ateny Wek's short brief message. Aweil is fighting a tuck-of-war between Aweilians in Khartoum who requested Kuol's appointment vs. Aweil members in the Diaspora who are opposing it. It is partially a political war of words and Kuol should take care and avoid being traped in a moment like this.

Akuei
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mayik_aweil · beginner Contributor Joined: 11 Mar 2005 Posts: 69

Pmalual and Akuei,

You guys are lucky. It would have been a different game if you become Kuol Manyang or John Garang and I become Lual Diing Wol or Dr. Ahoy. I am not inciting them against each other; however, I just wish that we would switch both our ages and positions in the Splm leadership.

Thanks for God for the opportunity you have gotten for more than twenty two years.

Thanks,

Garang Aher Arol.

AGANYJOK · Major Contributor Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 295

Dear all,

I can now see that different figures are rising up with the spirit of making this situation worse than it already is. I hate to see that happening. Unlike the other debates that we always trash easily, this one is hurting to the bone. Sudanese with minds must be careful here.

Although we grew up watching our parents and/or elders as they do their roles of various purposes, we should and must not be duplications of them, especially in the matters of revolution. We are much more better than them in term of education and universal experience such as democracy or people leadership. I don't mean to mean them, but I must say the obvious condtion. Most of us grew up in the far off lands, searching for the ways and means of recovering and obtaining the control of the God-given rights of each person alive. Today we are talking of a leadership of a black man, leading black men. A step into the right direction of our choosing. A first sign of the cause that has taken a painful and unforgetable told on our brothers who are not with us today in this world. They are not hear to witness what they have bought with their very best gifts - their lives. We are lucky not only to be alive, but to have in our hands what our brothers gave up all their most valuable gifts for - the liberty of every man and woman.

Now what is the best appreciation that we can give to these fallen heroes? Is it greed for power? Is it the achievement of personal dream or interest? Is it a feeling of political contentment of "As long as my plate is full, I give a long tick to the system"!? Or is it radicalism? Is it "either my way or no-way"? Dear brothers, believe it or not, the rumoured appointment is a national (South Sudan) temptation, especially if it is going to come to light as such. Just like everyone here, I am a kind of person who can't stand any form of belittlement. But I tend to have a completely picture of an idea or issue before I demand for its reversal or ratification. If we have outshone the nothern regimes for all those painful and deadly decades, who is the SPLM leader to temper with our political destiny? Every man is mortal and every work or decree is short-lived. We have the solution as people, but we must always have to have approciate wording of our discontentment and approriate response to what we deem to be unacceptable course.

Finally, we are the tomorrow's leaders, the professors, the doctors, the attorneys, the engineers, and what of you, of our nation. We will work together to reform, shape, and toss this nation into the sky. This perception should help us in staking our minds upward. We must try to be impartial under any circumstance. "Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere," says Martin L. KIng. There is a glaring evidence of injustice in the newly alleged Care-takers' appointment, and I expect all the rationale Southerners at every corner to condemn the act and call for an adjustment. Know this: Garang or his leadership is a passing cloud. Whether we know it or not, we will soon take over slowly or one at a time the leadership of this nation. Unless we cooperate and have a national concensus in every situation, our insensitivity to feel what pains another person may leave political scars in other people's hearts, which they may want to revenge politically tomorrow. Before we reveal our inner parts, let us first calculate to find out what is good for us not only only today, but also tomorrow.

*A.J.*

Akuei Akuei · Golden Member Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 825

Wen Aher Arol,

Jam lo buoth buoth ku aliapliap acii be luui while we are staying in the west. Let's give diplomacy a chance.

Aganyjok,
I hope you will stay that way to avoid blinking your eyes against the truth. We are all for justice and it may one day be served but not on others' expenses.

Akuei
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mayik_aweil · beginner Contributor Joined: 11 Mar 2005 Posts: 69

Aganyjok,

Again, welcome to Madingaweil website. I have known you for a long time and I therefore can tell what kind of a person you are.

Aganyjok, I have ignored many people here, for instance, Mabbul, Pmalual, Akuei, and others who have been insulting the entire Aweil, calling us greedies, irrationals, confused, and disorganized.

Aganjok, can I ask you some questions, is it scientifically proved or gentically proved that the offsprings of any disorganized generation can also be disorganized because their parents were disorganized? Do Mayom Bull and Akuei expect me or us to remain in cattle camp because our fathers were cattlekeepers? Are these individuals not cognizant of the "natural selection" and the impact of the environment on every generation?

My reply to those two guys didn't mean to incite anybody against anybody. However, I wanted to tell these dumbs and poorly students that they cannot and they will never outwit me in anything, if the game would happen practically between them and I. I know these individuals and they should not pretend they know more than Aweil people. For instance, Pmalual, I would expose his level of writing to the public but I don't want to do that because I am an ethical person. Pmalual and Akuei are not the people who could stand right on my face and talk. None of them is capable to debate political matters with me. They are nothing but immature and dumbfounded individuals, who are just motivated by their short-lived supremacy and oligarchical dictatorhip, which each of them is pursuing aggressively. I would be more aggressive and disturbing on this net but I decided not to use that since the issue we are talking about is the major political issue which is disturbing the whole region.

Do people have to insult us when we are pointing out tremendous injustices which are always directed against our people with impunity?

Aganyjok, as an individual, I complain about Aweil because I come from there and I believe you will not deny the fact that I have more stake in Aweil than anywhere else though we can sometime crosscut some important issues. Moreover, I always concentrate on Aweil proper arrangement and better government because I respect other states sovereignty. I don't want to intervene in other peope affairs when they are happy with what they have. But I wonder why most people, particularly Bor people meddle with our activities and concerns in Aweil? I wonder why do they want us to remain silent when they are extending their domination to Aweil area? Does this have sense when people want to remain silent while they are exploiting our blind and disabled like they did in the past? No, that is not true.

Aganyjok, indeed, for that nation to survive these difficulties and many challenges people are facing we must recognize and appreciate the importance of bringing justice to all or granted it to none. I am not the enemy of peace and stability but I am against injustices which are always intentionally directed against most in Aweil, purposely to suppress their social, economic, and political growths. I cannot and I will never agree with these policies. They are indeed the enemy of human development and dignity.

Aganyjok, I am disturbed and indeed disturbed by this incident. It is insulting and disparagement on the whole state and more damaging particularly to the individuals like me who believes, he has ability together some of his colleagues, who come from the same place. Aganyjok, most people might be celebrating but I urge them not to forget what will go into books as history. Mind you, my colleague, every step we take from very day John Garang was sworn in, is the beginning of a fresh of history. Many historians are there waiting to see who is doing what and what is he or she doing, where is he or she from and they did they bring him or her. My concern, Aganyjok, I don't want Aweil incompetency or incapability to provide her own governor to enter the historical book of Southern Sudan.

Dear all,

A lot of people might think I am frustrated but I am not. I believe in the fruits of justice, equality of opportunity, equality of outcome, social equality, direct link of the government, majortarian democracy, where people rule and not leaders.

Mind you, too, Aweil people and my other colleagues. I have suffered in the movement and I believe I have right to claim any position or have inalienable right to elect my own repesentative who will act as my delegate but not a trustee to either a president or minister. I, too, believe in the principle which states that policies are passed from the people to the government and then from the government to the people. This is what I fundamentally refer to as "linking the government with the people" or you may call it a direct democracy. I thought, too, the rich diversity in term of a people in the South would be developed to bring strong economic and political muscle, which would possibly build open and positive reputation of politically defaced nation, Southern Sudan.

Southern Sudan had been neglected in the management of their own government because they were denied an opportunityt to participate either directly or indirectly in it. Therefore it would be a time we should think and work together to bring the hope, optimism, resiliency, and courage back to the desperate and anxious people in the South, who had painfully suffered in the past five decades. I thought our reponsibility would be to cultivate our devastated people abilities and develop them more by engaging them in a uniform political environment, where every person from any corner of the South would have access to the political socialization or orientation. However, I am afraid of the way things are moving, because the current political situation is completely diverging from what masses in the South were expecting. The hope and optimism of the people will only be realized and respected only when a genuine democracy prevails and a lot of people in the South become politically active and free to directly elect their own representatives, which would create a highly standard of accountability and the sound leadership, which could respect and appreciate majority view and act based upon what is derived from the consent of the majority. I believe we are not here to promote suppression of human growth and to undermine the dignity of our own people, whom their beloved ones had died honorably in the pursuit of peace and political freedom in their God-given land.

Ladies and gentlement, I must reiterate that, the government is created because of the people and, in this particular view, any system of the government must be formed from the consent of the people. Again, I must reiterate that, the only way to bring the hope and optimism back to desperate and anxious masses in the South, is by creating a political environment where all corners in the South will have an undeniable access to it, for solialization or orientation. Our hopeless masses in the South need the leaders or leader that will bring government to their houses, farming fields, schools, markets, and other social places with ultimate goal to educate them and to prepare them for the future challenges. However, this is not the objective of the current government.

These appointments are not only undermining accountability which is always created when people elect their represetativs but it also kills unquenchable thirsty for a democracy, which is on the only way we can possibly show that we have a respect for our diversity.

Again, let's be cautious. Let's be careful because more humiliating things will go into historical books, which might create a bad image in the future.

I am proud to be born in Aweil.

Thanks,

Garang Aher Arol.

Mabbul · Major Contributor Joined: 11 Mar 2005 Posts: 222

Willy Willie · Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:57 pm Post subject:

Too much greedies spirit will cause too much destructions toward the life of those who never know how life is....

PMALUAL · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:50 am Post subject:

Garang Aher

first of all, if you want to talk about me, just go a head and say whatever you want. I know you very well including your attitude.
However, there is different between leadership you claimed and the leadership many people want to exist in the country. sir you are just a red herring not a leader. you have zero leadership skills and your psychopath ability will take you nowhere to rule or to be considered as a smart guy as you claimed. you have been claimed leadership and cleverness for many years but you always end up with nothing. finally showed off is a game of the fool folks, so you deserved it. Also Aweil region has so many wonderful leaders where a radical extremist like you will never get chance to rule or be a leader.

read again the two first paragraphs. do you think Aweilian were stupid in the past because you were not there or what are you telling me? the two paragraphs are too negative to the Aweilians older generation. don't hit the sending button before you read it again.
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mayik_aweil · beginner Contributor Joined: 11 Mar 2005 Posts: 69

Pmalual,

I haven't decided to debate with you. I was just trying to bring it into attention of Aganyjok how much I have been patient. Mind you, you have said a lot here but I have never debated you. And I will continue doing the same thing until I know your name clearly. Otherwise it would be good If I know your name. I have no intention to humiliate you since you said last time we had been together. Who knows maybe you were my close friend?

Pmalual, mind you too, I want you to acknowledge the sources of borrowed phrases or words to show your professional ethics to your audience. Such things like red herring and hasty generalization and ad hominen would be like this professionally, "red herring, hasty generalization, and ad hominen."

For instance, simple sentence like this. Don't you use "hasty generalization." This is extremely important because it indicates that you haven't plagiarized other people words or phrases. Just an opinion brother. No offend intended.

Mayom Bul,

I don't doubt your academic ability but you are a Type A personality kind of a person. You are intractable and impulsive.

Thanks,

Garang Aher

Akuei Akuei · Golden Member Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 825

Garang Aher,

Brother, it is unfortunate that you still haven't learn anything in your 20 or 30+ years of life. If you are not learning anything from the cosmos around you, then it will take you another 2 to 3 decades to grasp the glimpse of truth but unfornately, it will be too late to do just that. Stop jumping around and between topics and subjects. You should remember that this is a political debate not about innocent and great people of Aweil who contributed heavily during the war of liberation. Lastly, you can call us anything you like but at the end of the day you are still Garang Aher Arol we all know.

Akuei
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Deng .Y. Akok · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:01 am Post subject:

Malual Garang and Akuei

As always, thanks for you input and participation. While we are on the subject, who among you would accept Riek Machar as a Jonglei governor when he had caused such a hysterical grief to Bor people in 1990s? What would you do if Aweil refuse Kuol as Aweil governor?

Aweil’s circulating pinions of Kuol’s appointment as its governor, has a cause and it’s a sole decision made by the sons and daughters of the land and therefore, it cannot be altered by non-Aweilians. You should in addition remember that Politics as many of us knew it, has a separate direction at which individuals matters are dealt apart from the communal ones.

Please respect this community's privacies.

Deng Yel
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tongtueng

Dear Hon Malual,De Akuei De Mabul, and Maker De Costia,
Iam priviledge and honored to greet you in the in the name of Dinka, the Jech El Amer, and the New Sudan at large.
Before, I object to the your callous criticism about the ariticle at hand in the name of Dinka, I want to admit to the saying that' fools carrying themselves.' Why? You , Dinka, need to makes research for yourselves.
But, to be kind enough to give you a hint , I did not see and hear any non Dinkas partaking in that debate.

Again, before coming to debate,and if Dinkas educated and illiterates were realistic and sincere or if there were system that acccredits any society in Southern Sudan or Sudan at large to choose its own leaders civilly and militarily, I would have recommended the following gentlemen for Dinka, respectively, as administrators.

Ateny Wekdit, and Pieng Deng Majok .Why ?
My meticulate observation, analysis and recommendations came as results from my experiences in one of the refugee camps in Ethiopia and regard to address
of any torrid political issues whether regarding Dinka -Dinka problems , SPLA/splm , south-south,s or Sudan old or New at large.

I would recommend, Ateny Wekdit, as civil administrator because he is so patience , realistic, observance, and educative informally and formally in any field whether myths or legend of Dinka besides,Mading Deng, in regard to debate on article at hand.
Again, I would consider Hon. Deng Majok as the Highest commander of the Dinka because exuberant roles he played in Panyudo to both amer and all the refugees from Sudan at large in 1989. He his such a blessed individual not to Dinkas but to any considerate and sincere southerner who might witnessed his positive attitudes toward his former camrades and civilians wherever he came in contact with them.

Coming , to real debate I want to apologize on behalf of explicit Aweillians, apart from molana Wekdit, KK, Ahers , Santino Alfa , Mareng C., the patience and observale ones, to mention the few. They (straight foward, Aweillians) should have gathered more information than immediately reacted to article. They should have gathered all bunches of infomations for they , we or everyone knows in modern democracy very well that governors and representatives are selected by people concerned but not vis versa.

Notwithstanding , Iam so irated and rancorous on you , Malual, Akuei , M. Kostia Mabul, calling us (Aweillliians) despot , activists and choatic people is , in the name of Dinka and New Sudan to be , is totally wrong .
I do not knwow from you guys, how we aweillians or northern bhar el ghazallians :triple apuk,aguok,twic,awan, kwac and Big Gee Ngok should justify in front of you.If you have not realized the consideration and realizations shown by the above mention by turning down Mangok, Kawac Makuei, Arok Thon thon and Any realistic Dinkas by not collaboratively joining a hand in hand to oust the spla/splm or Goss you guys are so optimistic and proud of.Iam not trying in one way or other to condemn you or judge you but to remind you of the real doubt in former Spla leadership especially from bilpam to 2005.

So , to address the question concerning Bhar el Ghazal governor appointed, Hon.Juuk , militarily and protectively , I do not have a doubt in him , particularily. He should and with no single doubt should over command on the garrision on the battalions or regime in the mentioned area. However, when it comes to the civil and the local authority , he is intactly not qualified.Why? He is uninformant about the locals and mostly he does not know the relationship of the locals and their neihbors and former foes, Bagara, Zegat , missiria to mention the few
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I do not think he can , with win win solutions ,can convince my former enemies ,me , others we share the same senario and my own relations who lost their beloved ones . To give you an example, I like any others in the Northerner Bhar EL ghazal, have lost two of my cousins in the declared war and undeclared wars the maraam or maraleen or tong beer for you eastern Dinkas(Bor).
If you guys are sensitive and kwowledgeabe which I personally know that most of you are erudited, would not let some indifferent about beer govern affairs of Jonglei.

For sure, I indivually knows so well that am not genius over Dinkas, southerners, marginalers and THE NEW Sudan people at large ;one needs to gather all bunches of causes and effects of articles being posted by propaganum editors or inexperienced editors , before wasting his words betraying oneslef to foe within .We need to cautionly be aware of those who want to test their editorial skills in foreign languages by posting a very stiring political columns.

Thanks,
Tongtueng
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kerbino · beginner Contributor Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 5

Dear Garang and Akuei

i understand that being abrod and and your studies is not for me and Great Aweil generally,there is something like "ba jong manyangyath aher a dhok ke ye manyang" being there is nothing to me and Great Aweil in general you we are grown people change and stand up for the better future take care.

kerbino

Ateny Wek · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject:

Dear Tongtueng,

First, thank you for your compliments – I owe you a duty to take you on my shoulder. Your judgment to the role I have been playing in our society is very informed and inspiring – given the fact that I did not even recognize your name. Anyway it is good when ones’ own work receive such merits from person whom you do not even know personally. Otherwise, I appreciate your comment. To come to the point in question, Dinka leadership is a complex issue – given its political sensitivity. Dinka people in the eyes of other tribes have led and dominated the South for so long (from Abel’s era and throughout the 22 years long war) and have done irreparable injustice and it is time for other tribes. However, for Dinka the story is different – some Dinkas are more equal than others and they are only Dinka when there is danger. This makes my interpretation of Dinkaism different from others. However, I should leave outside the remit of my writings here. There are issue Dinka themselves would want to sort out before they can sit together i.e political issues of south Sudan.

Yes, you are correct Tongtueng, the best place for Kuol to run in Aweil is the army. I am not saying there isn’t anyone capable more than Kuol Manayang in the army stationed in Aweil – Cdr.Malong had fought to defend that area from Marahileen to present and may still be the best –given his heroic deeds. Before Cdr. Malong was the late George Kuac and his comrades. There are other capable officers in Aweil, some of them were my classmates, like Cdr.Dau Atorjong, Cdr.James Ajounga Mawut etc. Yet, the army could still be led by non citizen of a given area.. Politicians are not imported no matter how best they are. Kuol Manayang is a graduate of the then defunct Khartoum Technical Institute (KTI) with diploma in mechanical engineering, and was teaching staff at Wau Technical School when he decided to join the SPLA in 1980s. I was at Wau-day Senior Secondary School in my final year and I knew him very well. No matter how intelligent he has become during the 22 years of war he cannot beat his colleagues from Aweil who had the same qualifications at the time of his exit to join the SPLM/A. Mr.Chour Deng Mareng, is another graduate of KTI in the 1970s and went to UK for Masters in Mining Engineering and was already politician when he joined the SPLM/A in 1985 – what is different if he is made to care take the government of the people he was born and bred amongst them? Is the leadership of the South really aware of the complexity of Southern politics? Of course not. During this on-going debate I saw some comments which asserted the appointment of Mr.Kuol Manayng as care taker of N.BG state as “luck for people of Aweil” which I had miraculously ignored – for those who says this might be in different world. However, I am coming to realize that the bigger problem may not be Kuol Manyang. If any, Kuol like the rest of his counterparts might be victims of some political miscalculations somewhere. Kuol may soon be in the governor’s office in Northern Bhar El Gazhal, but what is next move? Let me use Mayom Bul’s term “let us wait and see”. Which direction, God is the judge.

Kind regards.

Ateny Wekdit,
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Ateny Wek · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:26 pm Post subject:

Dhor aBun · Moderator Joined: 11 Mar 2005 Posts: 322 Location: USA

Dear PMalual,

I know you were born in mess and whatever you do is clouded with mess. At the initial of your post you asked qoute, "why many Aweilians complaining, whining and outcry for everything." Then again you narrow it down to "extremist". The word Aweil there is misplaced and I failed to understand why messing with the name of community when none of us here mention Bor. I know when people will take that trend later on, it is you that will falsely accused us of being tribalist.......

You have been constantly saying Aweil will not elect extemists as their leaders, is it Aweil that branded them as extemists? You people like to utter irrationality, do you also use the same scale of establishing irrationality to see where your actions fit? How come somebody with political capacity of toddler elevated himself to claim wisdom over community of two million people whom he just happened to have known during inseption of the SPLM/A. How can a mature person with little claim of civilization and merge education obessed himself with knowledge of a place he had not set foot on?

In the history of Aweil people political organization had been tradition of our community with every region having their own chiefs which provide best governance without borrowing the wisdom of leadership from Bor as some of you seems to portray. Prominent politicians like Arthur Akuein Chol, Molana William Ajal, Deng Aluk, Chuor Deng, Lual Lual Akuei, Uncle Kwac Makuei, Said Aldo Ajou, Lual Diing Wol, Akol Akol, Kuac Wol....etc occupied prominent positions in old Sudan government without going to school of wisdom and rationality in Bor. Take it in my word, the political destiny of this branded "extremists" will be determined by Aweil and not you.

If people really have gut, then I failed to comprehend how the action of this leader John Garang who is solely responsible for this mess that we are engage in discussion could be term. Could it be rational or irrational? why do we like to point finger at others when we are sleeping with devil in our houses. Iam looking for a day when we will discuss here an instant where Aweil sons has robbed Bor people of their rights.

Keep your edge don't step into other people affairs!

Dhor Arol.
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PMALUAL · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:05 pm Post subject:

Dhor A.

you know nothing about my childhood. how do you know i was born in mess? can't you even use your common sense when you write and that first sentence described you as an incorrigible liar. you have no idea where i am from in Bor region.

first of all i cannot generalizing Aweil people as bad folks because 98% of Aweilians excluding you know what they are doing and I respect them. moreover, I am not talking about the Aweilians in whole but I am talking about the few an incorrigible liars who become hyperbole claimed of everything in this website.

However; you don't get it, I never said Aweil region has no good leaders but i am saying you are not one of them in the way you talk or represent your point. the grudge and insatiable spirit you have will havoc your claimed of being Aweil representative in the future within your region. also it is not about Aweil and Bor, it is about those who claimed leadership skills and knowledge they never have in their lives and promotion of war they will never fight. get it straightforward that marginalizing language, false analogy, invalid argument and false assumption knowledge you have will not gonna change anything or they will not gonna make Aweil region more better.

those who promote war they will never fight are they evils, not those who promote peace. it will be better to work for the common good than using assumption for the political advantages.

finally you say anything you will never back it up and that is false assumption.
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PMALUAL · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:14 pm Post subject:

Dhor A
keep you mouth shut you know nothing. you don't have to tell me your grudge and rancor assumption. you should be realistic in what you say.
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Yic · beginner Contributor Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 66

Not every topic that should be responded to. Topics from less serious, but talkactive goons deserve ignorance. The more you respond to them, the more these fools feel invited. Let their trash meet the garbage bin without recognition. Don't engage at all the political underages, and in this way, you will have saved your mental anguish.

~~ Yic ~~

PMALUAL · Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:10 am Post subject:

Yic

you are right, those who claimed smartness deserved garbage bin as you said. they are playing trash politics with nothingness in their mind.
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Generalchuol · Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:28 am Post subject:

Awek

Well, you know Kuol lot but just to mention for your information. He attended some training, too in Western Germany and taught at Juba university. Some said in the other post "there are enough people to manage car garage in Aweil" Laughing

and I hope there are still enough governors and every things already.

My point is, do you guy in Aweil have a system of elected governors so that the SPLA/M office will not interfer with your administration?

If so, then Kuol or whoever appointed him don't have any right to change the system, and your election will go ahead with sensitive candidates.

Instead of jumping from point to point and abuse the leaders will not work, Kuol is just good militarily and not civilian. How come he governed upper Nile will carried on military warfare at Equatorian?

There will be lots of questions in SPLA/M office ofcourse, we need to know who are those candidate running election and their party as well.
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Aruei Bol · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:36 pm Post subject:

Deng Y.
Is this Deng Yel I knew from DDB? Whatever the case, let me have you to correct yourself a little further.
You were right, we don't expect Riek to be the governor of Jonglei right now, but we wouldn't reject him if brought to us because it's time to embrace peace and forget the past.
Did you mean to compare the actions of Riek to that of Kuol? What has Kuol done to the NBG state to be hated that much? I have never heard anyone including the vocal critics like Garang Aher mentioning why you are rejecting Kuol but I am happy you have broke your silence. So go ahead and tell us the atrocities commited by Kuol to NBG.

Aruei Bol Aruei
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Deng .Y. Akok · Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:27 am Post subject:

Yes, you, re right Mark Aruei: I am Deng Yel you were with, in DBB! Before I forget, how are your aged parents coping with Canada’s weathers?
On your requests, Kuol’s topic is presently at ease; or else, thanks for asking me on more elaborations.

Deng Yel
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